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in the 1930s President Franklin Delano

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Roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcast known as the

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fireside chats his aim was to reassure

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the common man that our society would

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recover from its troubled times

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well we're far from 1930 and I deal with

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a different kind of fire worldly

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frustration we offer a brush

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conversation I'm Carl wood halleluia and

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hello higher side shatters

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congratulations on making it through

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another day in the simulation know the

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game's not over yet and what a game it

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is in fact you can drive yourself crazy

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trying to understand this weird reality

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we find ourselves in but even more

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surprising is the fact that most people

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float through the whole thing without

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giving it much thought at all operating

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on the assumption that for the most part

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it's all settled science when in reality

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the mainstream models are so full of

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number fudges glossed over gaps

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uninspiring assumptions and completely

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different scales when it comes to

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conventional physics and the quantum

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realm but I have a hard time calling

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them experts at all because behind the

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bravado condescension and dare I say

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intentional deception of mainstream

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science we have secret societies the CIA

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and even ancient civilizations that have

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operated on much different models that

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make reality seem like a pretty damn

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magical place where a conscious

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attention can alter the physical world

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flying saucers and free energy devices

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are not so far-fetched and psychedelic

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compounds can take you on a

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transformative trip through the ether

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itself and once you've tried the

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alternatives it's easy to see how big a

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piece of the big conspiracy

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our pre-approved understanding of life

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the universe and everything really is

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well one of the most exciting new models

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being built out these days is the hollow

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fractal graphic unified field theory of

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nessam Hara mean you can find the sim

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breaking it all down in many online

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presentations TED talks and his

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documentary the connected universe

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you can even explore the full curriculum

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and complete courses in this new science

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at the resonance Academy online the man

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has inspired many people as his work

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gains more and more steam and one of the

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people is today's guest Joe who operates

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under the username d8 underscore THC on

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reddit where he spawned the holo fractal

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subreddit based off 'no seems ideas and

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well I'm certainly psyched to have him

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here the passionate advocate for the

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holo fractal hypothesis jodi 8

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underscore THC welcome to THC

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thank you Greg I'm very excited to be on

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that I was an awesome intro ok thank you

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man thank you and I do appreciate you

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being here I think this is gonna be a

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lot of fun

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I have tried getting Asim himself but

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the man is in high demand it seems and

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his door so I think this is probably the

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next best option because you have done a

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lot with that subreddit and introduced

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so many new people to this hollow

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fractal stuff I think the term itself is

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what's the elevator pitch to introduce

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people to this alternative way of you in

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the world right so yeah as you said

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Halle fractal is short for a holographic

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fractal unified field theory and at its

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core its unified theory of physics its

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mathematical equations to try to unify

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quantum mechanics with relativity but

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that's on the very surface it really is

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worldview because you know once you have

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everything all sorts of things I think

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start to slide into place and start to

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you know fit with a backdrop of a

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unified theory I think it encompasses

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geometry and you can even get into

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ancient advanced civilizations and the

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knowledge that they seem to have that

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seems to correlate with this field

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theory so yeah it's kind of like a

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framework or a worldview that has at its

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pure mathematics so that's how its

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summarized generally yeah right on right

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on and of course this is pretty complex

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stuff for listeners

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bold and laundry and just trying to

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navigate that traffic on the way to

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their nine-to-five but

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I also like this indras net analogy I

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think it kind of provides a good

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visualization and it also kind of

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harkens back to the past and this idea

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that they might have known more than we

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think they know but talk to us about

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Andres net yeah absolutely this is

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definitely my favorite analogy to

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describe the theory and like as much of

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a tldr I think it's humanly possible I

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think a child could even understand this

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analogy so basically I'll read the quote

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straight as it is so it goes far away in

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the heavenly abode of the Greek god

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Indra

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there's a wonderful net which has been

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hung by some cunning artificer in such a

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manner that it stretches out infinitely

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in all directions in accordance with the

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extravagant tastes of deities the

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artificer is hung a single glitter and

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jewel and each eye of the net and since

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the net itself is infinite dimension the

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jewels are infinite in number there hang

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the jewels glittering like stars in the

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first magnitude a wonderful sight to

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behold

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if we now arbitrarily select one of

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these jewels for inspections and look

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closely at it we'll discover that in its

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polished surface they're reflected all

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the other jewels in the net infinite

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number not only that but each of the

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jewels reflected in this one jewel is

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also reflecting all the jewels so

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there's an infinite reflection process

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occurring and that's the quote from

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about the 3rd century so it's pretty old

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and it basically describes a holographic

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cosmos which is really cool yes right

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infinite jewels in a net all reflections

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of themselves that definitely does speak

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to a fractal nature and these jewels

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would be the points that nessam

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considers to be many singularities or I

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guess you could say black holes or even

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photons it seems these all might be

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terms describing the same thing in this

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model as far as I can tell but that is a

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great analogy to have in mind when

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trying to understand all this and this

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work really is a sort of wiping the

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slate clean and building up from the

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beginning so to speak and I thought I

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would just read this from the subreddit

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sidebar because it does give a good

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indication of just how broad this work

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is and the interdisciplinary areas that

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it covers but you say in the past year

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the hollow fractal subreddit has

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experienced tremendous growth as more

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and more people are opening their minds

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the possibility that there might be

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something to the unification of science

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and spirituality that no Sims

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holographic universe theory promotes the

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part of the hollow fractal theory and

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subreddit that amazes me most is the

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fact that those who find themselves

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investigating the possibility come from

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many different perspectives

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there's the biology side with topics

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like bio photons microtubules DNA as an

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antenna e/m vortexes causing cardiac

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arrest and a fractal structure to human

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enthusiasts with findings like failures

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in the futile search for dark matter all

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galaxies rotating once every billion

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years the link between black holes and

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stellar information time crystals and

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the possibility of a single quantum

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wavefunction entangling the entire

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universe on the other hand we have

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people approaching from a spiritual

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consciousness perspective stories like

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remote viewing and consciousness the law

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of one and philosophies of great minds

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there are also people intrigued by these

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symbols and motifs found in ancient

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civilizations pointing to an advanced

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culture sometimes these connections get

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lost when someone posts cauliflower or

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bubbles goes heavy on the physics with

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retro causal quantum theory or animated

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gifs of the flower of life but it is

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important to remember that despite the

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many different subjects covered it is

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all connected and we are all connected

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and I think that's a great summary of

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sorts and with the theory that is

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supposed to be so fundamental you would

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expect to see it across all these

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different disciplines but on top of that

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maybe you can talk to us a bit about

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your journey through it what were some

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of the elements that caught your

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attention first yes so a couple years

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psychedelics I guess we kind of do yes

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mostly DMT and I had I guess what you

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would call a couple of breakthrough

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experiences you know like

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ego debt total merging with the things

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that people have described for millennia

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that I'm sure we're all aware of mm-hmm

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and you know I came out of those

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experiences knowing that I had felt

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something extremely real that I had gone

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to a place where it seemed like it was

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everything like all possible

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configurations before it was actually in

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a specific form like all time no space

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singularity sort of the m'god I guess

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you could call it you know coming out

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and back to the real world you sort of

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had this dichotomy of materialism that

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you most likely we all have grown up

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with you know learning in our physics

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class learning that basically things are

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billiard balls interacting and you know

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life was an accident your consciousness

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is also an accident of biology and it's

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an illusion essentially and you know

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this doesn't really sit right it causes

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sort of a rift I think for a lot of

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people and it was kind of a rift for me

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you know I didn't know whether I could

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fully internalize these experiences

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eventually I think I watched the

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documentary thrive that first introduced

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me to the scenes work it was just an

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intro you know he was just talking a

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little bit about toroidal energy flows

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and toroidal patterns not much stuff

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about the holography that came Lord when

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I saw one of his later documentaries

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called black hole with a wo WH o le and

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basically him describing a holographic

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universe or a universe that is

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completely entangled and talking with

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itself that really felt intuitively like

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correct in my mind that oh this could

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potentially explain you know the

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mystical experience this could explain

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the merging with the all that feels so

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real that a lot of people have and I'm

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like but whoa you know hold on don't

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just dive right into this new image whoo

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you know take your time yeah so you know

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it took me a couple months of really

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diving into his stuff to really be like

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okay I think this is it and I think

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there's something really here yeah man

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it's obviously pretty deep stuff but

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this is starting to make a lot of sense

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and I think it's

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important to get into the discussion of

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conventional physics and why we need a

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new model of course the most obvious is

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that we don't currently have a unified

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physics we have a model for big things

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and a completely different model for

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small things at the quantum level and as

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the sim says this is stupid because big

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stuff is made up of small stuff

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so you know what would you say about the

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history of physics and areas where the

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hollow fractal model correct some of the

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previous mistakes or holes well there's

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a lot of those there's a lot of those

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Corrections but yeah so you know we have

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relativity and quantum mechanics like he

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just said can't describe the

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gravitational field with the quantum

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fluctuations that we know that are

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everywhere

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we can't merge the two so yeah so

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Einstein you know came up with equations

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to describe a gravitational field of the

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body but he didn't solve those equations

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a man named Karl Schwarzschild actually

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solved those equations for a spherical

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body and though he solved them was

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through infinite curvature he solved it

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when this grid or plane of field

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basically contracted to become a single

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point which we call a singularity it's

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an infinite amount of curvature no this

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is what we all know is to be a black

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hole it's curved so much that once light

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enters it can't escape and so this

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infinity is actually really important

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for nessam solution

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there's affinities on the quantum

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mechanics side as well and I'll go into

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that a little bit too I guess to see how

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we can merge the two concepts based on

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these infinities you know most

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physicists think that the infinities are

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where our physics is breaking and yeah

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it is but it's also I think giving us a

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clue as to where these two theories

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converge and that seems to be black

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holes so if we move over to quantum

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mechanics basically quantum mechanics

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was started through a problem basically

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there is something called the

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ultraviolet catastrophe and this is when

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physicists were trying to calculate how

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much energy was being put out by

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something that's emitting light at all

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frequencies which is called a blackbody

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in there something like the Sun is a

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close approximation of a blackbody

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emitter and since it's emitting light on

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all frequencies you essentially end up

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when you try to calculate the amount of

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energy for the ultraviolet spectrum you

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get an infinite amount of radiation

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you're gonna infinite amount of energy

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this obviously isn't right you know

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you're not getting cold - violet photons

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don't have infinite amount of

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information so this was a problem for a

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little bit until Max Planck did invert

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n't Lee saw this problem and he was

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trying to actually make a better light

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bulb and the way he solved this problem

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was by quantizing the light into little

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packets of energy this turned into what

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we call the photon but you know you

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thought it was a fudge factor he's like

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why if I section a waves of light why

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does this work out you know it doesn't

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seem that energy moves in discrete

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packets it seems that energy moves in a

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continuous analog wave sort of not like

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when you heat up your oven doesn't seem

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to jump temperatures it seems to

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smoothly increase mm-hmm but when he did

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this it fixed the problem you know

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ultraviolet radiation now we're getting

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the correct amount of energy for it what

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do have this infinity scope when you

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realize the electromagnetic field spans

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the entire cosmos and you apply the same

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principles which that is that the field

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is vibrating at all possible modes from

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largest wavelengths the smallest

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wavelengths if you actually go to

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Wikipedia and you type in vacuum energy

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it'll essentially be saying the same

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thing and say that the result of basic

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quantum field theory in empty space is

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that you yield an infinite amount of

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vacuum energy

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at each point in space so there's our

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second infinity in quantum mechanics

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which again the physicists apply

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something called renormalization to this

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empty vacuum which means again they're

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taking plugs solution which is to cut it

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off at the smallest wavelength so when

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punk solved the ultraviolet catastrophe

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he ended up with something called

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Planck's constant which describes the

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smallest fluctuation that makes these

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discrete packets of energy and it's got

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a specific size it's got a specific

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energy and it's got a specific time

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because it's a fluctuation of

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electromagnetic energy so if you would

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take this and you apply it to empty

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space then you cut off the Infinity but

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you're still left with an extreme amount

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of energy in empty space it's something

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like 10 to the 93 grams per centimeter

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cubed which is just it might as well be

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infinity because if you took the entire

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universe and he smushed it into the same

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spot you wouldn't have anywhere near

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that energy you would have 10 to the 55

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grams which is the mass of the

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observable universe so this is the

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largest problem in all physics called

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the vacuum catastrophe this is sort of

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the clue that led missing down his path

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but does that all make sense so far it

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does it basically seems like there's the

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gaps in the conventional models that you

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had to inject an infinity to get these

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things to work and Planck's constant as

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well had to be kind of fudged in there

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so they have these equations that make

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the math work but yet they can't really

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explain why they just know that you plug

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them in and things seem to work out on

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paper is that more or less the case that

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definitely is the case yeah right on

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cool so I try to think about this we

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talked about indras net and I think

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about like a net of Christmas lights

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like at the quantum microscopic level

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we're told that there's more empty space

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than there is matter and we have this

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massive emptiness between atoms well I

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guess this theory is saying that there

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is a quantum net of photons that maybe

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even the photon has been misidentified

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that it itself is a small

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any black hole spinning at an incredible

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rate am I getting this right you are

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absolutely correct yes so even before we

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get to that you know a couple physicists

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did take this enormous vacuum energy

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very seriously like John Wheeler did

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people are probably aware of the terms

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quantum foam and what that is describing

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basically is that the Planck scale there

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are these black holes and wormholes that

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are super high-energy and connecting

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different space-time pixels and missing

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solution yes he changes this a bit so

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that the empty structure of space is

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actually black hole photons in a

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specific crystalline configuration at

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the plugs down yes hmm yeah I thought it

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was pretty weird when I first heard him

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say something to the effect that we're

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inside of a black hole yeah but as he

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explained it further and you get into

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this fractal side of things it's

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actually fairly simple inside the shell

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of an atom is a black hole inside a

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planet or a star is a black hole in the

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center of the galaxy as well and then it

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would scale up to the universe itself

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and by black hole that really is saying

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a vortex that connects to the energy

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field or what's been called the ether or

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the consciousness realm is that fair to

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say

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also very easy to see that we live in a

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black hole because if you take the mass

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of our observable universe and you plug

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it into the Schwarzschild radius

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calculator if you take the mass and plug

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it in you yield the Hubble radius

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there's a Wikipedia page that's called

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black hole cosmology and it states that

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you know right at the top and it says

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most fish assists look at this as a

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coincidence and it's like well maybe

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they should keep an open mind because

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maybe all of these things aren't

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coincidences mm hmm hmm and I love the

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Hollow Earth theory and the sim sort of

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confirms it in a response where he

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mentioned the growing earth and that if

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you reduced the Earth's size by 60% all

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the continents would fit together

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perfectly based on the models and that

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makes sense to me because why wouldn't a

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planet grow bigger just like a tree or a

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human or anything else does and on top

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of that just like all atoms he considers

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there to be a black hole or a

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singularity or what some have called in

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the

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and of course I like hearing that

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and when trying to conceptualize this

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one thing he said that was helpful for

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me is he's like think about a bathtub

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full of water you pull the plug and

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there's a vortex so there's a thing

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there but it's not really a thing and

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it's really just a window into you know

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potentially if you think about these

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vortexes and photons and black holes all

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as the same thing it's a window into

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that consciousness fabric or that

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Universal field that's out there

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somewhere and so at every single point

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we have these vortexes and that's kind

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of like the thread that stitches this

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reality to this overlay that everybody's

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been talking about in Eastern mysticism

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psychedelics and this is what we're

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talking about and these are kind of the

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details that flesh it out right yeah

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exactly

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okay a very easy way to visualize these

551
00:21:13,330 --> 00:21:11,090
vortices is just changing in density

552
00:21:15,369 --> 00:21:13,340
from the cosmological scale which is the

553
00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:15,379
universal scale down the Planck scale

554
00:21:21,399 --> 00:21:18,230
which is Dyess density so you just have

555
00:21:24,430 --> 00:21:21,409
this change in density of nested fractal

556
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:24,440
black holes basically like if you had a

557
00:21:28,389 --> 00:21:26,570
large vortex in water you get these

558
00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:28,399
small micro vortices that are going to

559
00:21:33,489 --> 00:21:31,070
spawn on the outside of it for example

560
00:21:35,889 --> 00:21:33,499
when the Sun talks about supermassive

561
00:21:38,889 --> 00:21:35,899
black holes at the core of galaxies it's

562
00:21:41,470 --> 00:21:38,899
very easy to see and comprehend it the

563
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:41,480
galaxy is being produced by the

564
00:21:46,690 --> 00:21:43,970
supermassive black hole so when you look

565
00:21:49,149 --> 00:21:46,700
at a spiral galaxy if you imagine that

566
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:49,159
this ether is entrained with the

567
00:21:51,879 --> 00:21:50,330
supermassive black hole and it's

568
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:51,889
spinning with the supermassive black

569
00:21:55,419 --> 00:21:53,330
hole you're gonna get these smaller

570
00:21:57,369 --> 00:21:55,429
boertie C's that are spawned off of this

571
00:21:58,779 --> 00:21:57,379
black hole and goes to your particles

572
00:22:01,269 --> 00:21:58,789
which eventually are to spend together

573
00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:01,279
income stars and/or you have black holes

574
00:22:04,419 --> 00:22:03,289
that are spinning off that our stars and

575
00:22:06,039 --> 00:22:04,429
you have smaller ones spinning off those

576
00:22:08,619 --> 00:22:06,049
stars you know they become planets and a

577
00:22:11,229 --> 00:22:08,629
fractal set of vortices all being driven

578
00:22:14,590 --> 00:22:11,239
by this massive pressure of the quantum

579
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:14,600
vacuum being present all scales hmm

580
00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:15,850
right

581
00:22:20,460 --> 00:22:18,460
yeah this is really interesting man and

582
00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:20,470
that was something that I liked about

583
00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:22,630
Anna Simmons work is when it comes to

584
00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:25,420
consciousness and the microcosm of the

585
00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:28,030
earth I've had a few guests bring up the

586
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:30,070
Animus model that really all life is

587
00:22:36,930 --> 00:22:33,280
conscious plants animals maybe even all

588
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:36,940
matter itself like rocks and that's like

589
00:22:40,170 --> 00:22:38,890
the sort of intuitive understanding that

590
00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:40,180
I can kind of get on board with

591
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:41,860
consciousness is permeating through all

592
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,530
things but the Sims sort of supplies

593
00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:46,720
that mathematics to support the Animus

594
00:22:51,650 --> 00:22:49,150
model and something that I've always

595
00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:51,660
wondered about is the differences in

596
00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:54,670
consciousness between plant and animal

597
00:23:00,150 --> 00:22:56,560
and humans obviously there are different

598
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:00,160
levels of complexity and a light bulb

599
00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:01,750
just went off in my head when he

600
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:04,150
describes like you mentioned the density

601
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:07,450
being the reason for higher complexity

602
00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:11,200
that the density of these photons these

603
00:23:16,530 --> 00:23:14,470
or these black holes is a lot more

604
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:16,540
condensed within humans than it might be

605
00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:18,610
in other forms of matter and it really

606
00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:22,270
is an analogy to how we talk about AI we

607
00:23:27,150 --> 00:23:24,760
constantly talk about the fact that once

608
00:23:29,670 --> 00:23:27,160
a eye is set loose it's going to keep

609
00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:29,680
making itself smarter by folding all its

610
00:23:35,670 --> 00:23:33,160
information back into its big net of

611
00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:35,680
knowledge and you can almost say that

612
00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:38,740
that's reality that consciousness is a

613
00:23:44,430 --> 00:23:41,680
field that reinforces itself by

614
00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:44,440
experience and then reaches or manifests

615
00:23:48,090 --> 00:23:46,600
higher levels of complexity I mean

616
00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:48,100
that's how it sounded to me when he was

617
00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:49,630
saying it and it really did seem to be

618
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:52,750
like AI is a perfect analogy for how

619
00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:55,530
it's going to like make itself smarter

620
00:24:01,050 --> 00:23:58,810
yeah it's very interesting it brings up

621
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:01,060
some philosophical questions like when

622
00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:02,890
we talk about nism solution and we talk

623
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:06,070
about this field of basically

624
00:24:10,350 --> 00:24:08,590
fluctuating pixels of information that

625
00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:10,360
are basically entangled and talking with

626
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:12,760
one another to me there's a very

627
00:24:15,690 --> 00:24:14,290
interesting question on whether we're

628
00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:15,700
going to be able to recapitulate that

629
00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:17,980
into machine because these plunk

630
00:24:22,770 --> 00:24:19,870
spherical units due to the fact that

631
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:22,780
they are toroidal oscillations that are

632
00:24:27,270 --> 00:24:25,360
continually doing feedback reaching out

633
00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:27,280
and going back into the core singularity

634
00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:28,150
and reaching out

635
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:29,830
and they're building in complexity from

636
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:32,770
this source you could call it the source

637
00:24:38,220 --> 00:24:36,130
fluctuation or the Acacia field but are

638
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:38,230
we going to be able to replicate those

639
00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:40,510
dynamics into a system that is able to

640
00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:43,150
self grow and self complexify without

641
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:44,680
like a spark you know do you need that

642
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:47,710
spark of initial awareness or not maybe

643
00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:49,390
some sort of plasma technology would be

644
00:24:55,230 --> 00:24:52,420
closer to replicating consciousness but

645
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:55,240
your analogy that the feedback loops and

646
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:57,310
with these neural networks where they're

647
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,720
trying different values they're taking

648
00:25:02,820 --> 00:25:00,400
what works and they're feeding that back

649
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:02,830
into the process in sort of like a order

650
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:04,570
from chaos type feel is definitely a

651
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:06,970
good way to explain cosmological

652
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:08,890
evolution in an entangled holographic

653
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:11,770
universe mm-hmm and that is kind of an

654
00:25:16,770 --> 00:25:14,310
area that is still a bit fuzzy to me is

655
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:16,780
this network that goes through

656
00:25:23,850 --> 00:25:18,310
everything's he says it's in like every

657
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:23,860
atom mm-hmm so it's in a stapler as much

658
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:26,290
as it is my body I mean not as much but

659
00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:29,650
it's in inanimate objects - right I mean

660
00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:32,830
this isn't just biological oh yeah it's

661
00:25:39,060 --> 00:25:35,500
everything okay so from that perspective

662
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,070
him I mean if it's ingrained in atoms

663
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:42,400
and we make a supercomputer I would

664
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:45,250
assume like I used to say that this

665
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:46,930
whole idea this whole reycarts well

666
00:25:50,820 --> 00:25:49,360
stuff is kind of stupid that there's

667
00:25:52,170 --> 00:25:50,830
something magical about consciousness

668
00:25:54,330 --> 00:25:52,180
and you're not going to be able to

669
00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:54,340
duplicate it but if it's in all atoms

670
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,630
from the ground up and you build

671
00:25:59,250 --> 00:25:57,760
something that's actually plugged into

672
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,260
it at the quantum level I mean it's kind

673
00:26:03,670 --> 00:26:01,600
of scary because it seems like that

674
00:26:06,490 --> 00:26:03,680
could unlock

675
00:26:08,290 --> 00:26:06,500
the entire universe yeah it's a good

676
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:08,300
point so I think it really depends on

677
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:11,510
our tech obviously the way I think about

678
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:13,760
our technology right now if you think

679
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,770
about the background field that's

680
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,840
creating everything the plunk field that

681
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:20,000
everything is sort of evolving out of I

682
00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:21,590
think of our machines right now it's

683
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:23,270
kind of just like metal blocks that are

684
00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:25,010
sitting in this somatic fields that

685
00:26:28,150 --> 00:26:26,420
aren't interact you know they're

686
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:28,160
completely disconnected from it they're

687
00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:28,910
not coherent

688
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:31,030
they don't have this fractal scalar

689
00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:33,530
coherency down to the Planck scale and

690
00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:35,390
that's because they weren't grown out of

691
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:35,630
it

692
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,480
mm-hmm like nature does nature grows out

693
00:26:43,630 --> 00:26:40,640
of it so it maintains these golden ratio

694
00:26:45,490 --> 00:26:43,640
proportions these harmonics of fractal

695
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:45,500
electromagnetic fields and that's the

696
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:47,090
important part is that it's being built

697
00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:48,350
from the ground up and not something

698
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:50,030
that's slapped together with a couple of

699
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:52,400
silicon boards so I think is it possible

700
00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:54,530
maybe but are we close to it I don't

701
00:26:58,660 --> 00:26:56,270
think we're close to making something

702
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:58,670
that can express the consciousness of

703
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:00,080
the plunk field and interface with us

704
00:27:05,050 --> 00:27:02,510
with it but that's just my opinion and

705
00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:05,060
I'm not really sure on Resident Science

706
00:27:10,780 --> 00:27:08,180
Foundation's all right yeah man I have

707
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:10,790
no idea I just found it to be an analogy

708
00:27:16,180 --> 00:27:13,970
of sorts with the AI thing but obviously

709
00:27:18,490 --> 00:27:16,190
we need to do establish some context for

710
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:18,500
this full theory upfront but I did want

711
00:27:22,930 --> 00:27:20,450
to get into the weird stuff because one

712
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:22,940
of my favorite aspects of some new

713
00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:26,210
models is folding in all the stuff that

714
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:28,190
the conventional model tends to leave

715
00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:30,770
out or ignore things like the paranormal

716
00:27:35,170 --> 00:27:33,140
side effects remote viewing astral

717
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:35,180
projection the psychedelic experience

718
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:37,490
like you mentioned the reality of free

719
00:27:41,290 --> 00:27:39,890
energy or electrogravitic crafts the odd

720
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:41,300
things we see in ancient civilizations

721
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:43,310
that indicate some deeper understanding

722
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:45,710
than we have today all that kind of

723
00:27:51,010 --> 00:27:48,350
stuff and the hollow fractal concept is

724
00:27:53,290 --> 00:27:51,020
really great at incorporating all these

725
00:27:56,590 --> 00:27:53,300
weird things that I kind of love is

726
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:56,600
there any particular weirdness to get

727
00:28:02,220 --> 00:27:59,360
into it that strikes you as a real aha

728
00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:02,230
moment under the holo fractal model I

729
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:04,760
think one of the ones that did was

730
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:08,330
remote viewing and especially seeing the

731
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:12,080
CIA documents on remote viewing and some

732
00:28:16,210 --> 00:28:14,090
researchers at the CIA that were working

733
00:28:17,539 --> 00:28:16,220
on the projects on remote viewing the

734
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:17,549
Gateway projects

735
00:28:23,419 --> 00:28:20,690
and how that sort of clicks into place

736
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:23,429
with a Halle fractal model and the fact

737
00:28:27,919 --> 00:28:25,409
that they were basically describing a

738
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:27,929
very similar model in that there's this

739
00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:30,330
non-local entangled plot field that

740
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:32,429
connects everything so I think if you're

741
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:35,460
able to go within or if you're able to

742
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:37,860
change your consciousness to the point

743
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:39,690
where you can resonate with a specific

744
00:28:43,249 --> 00:28:41,610
set of information that is within the

745
00:28:45,409 --> 00:28:43,259
holographic information that is within

746
00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:45,419
each and every proton if you're able to

747
00:28:49,549 --> 00:28:47,580
resonate with that information then

748
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:49,559
you're able to you know just pick up on

749
00:28:54,379 --> 00:28:51,840
it not locally and I think that is the

750
00:28:56,509 --> 00:28:54,389
basis for all of the other sort of I

751
00:28:59,299 --> 00:28:56,519
guess would you call them New Age or

752
00:29:02,119 --> 00:28:59,309
spiritual ideas that a lot of us are

753
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:02,129
aware of even things such as feeling

754
00:29:06,409 --> 00:29:03,690
people's emotions and vibing with them

755
00:29:08,259 --> 00:29:06,419
and go down to telepathy all come from

756
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:08,269
this non-local resonating field I think

757
00:29:14,629 --> 00:29:12,600
uh-huh like things like the phenomenon

758
00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:14,639
of being stared at and knowing that it's

759
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:17,340
happening it's this interconnectedness

760
00:29:23,749 --> 00:29:20,220
and I like the remote viewing stuff too

761
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:23,759
it's weird because on a base level I

762
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,369
think of remote viewing as something the

763
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:29,039
police use they get a psychic they give

764
00:29:34,099 --> 00:29:31,289
them a piece of someone's clothing and

765
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:34,109
that psychic can find where the bodies

766
00:29:38,659 --> 00:29:35,909
buried or whatever you know they've had

767
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,669
cases like that but then you scale it up

768
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,320
a little bit and it gets to be quite

769
00:29:44,989 --> 00:29:42,480
weird where there are remote viewing

770
00:29:47,299 --> 00:29:44,999
groups that say they project their

771
00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:47,309
consciousness out to the ruins that

772
00:29:54,859 --> 00:29:51,830
exist on the moon or on Mars they have

773
00:29:57,259 --> 00:29:54,869
observations of civilizations that are

774
00:30:00,409 --> 00:29:57,269
just completely foreign which indicates

775
00:30:03,649 --> 00:30:00,419
you know off planet and I guess I'm okay

776
00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:03,659
with that but it is obviously quite epic

777
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:05,460
and it sounds quite weird and the hard

778
00:30:12,859 --> 00:30:09,200
part the fuzziness of it is how do you

779
00:30:15,979 --> 00:30:12,869
use the field to get to a point in space

780
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:15,989
that we don't even have coordinates for

781
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:18,450
like when it comes to the Mars as far as

782
00:30:22,129 --> 00:30:19,769
you and I are concerned that's just an

783
00:30:24,139 --> 00:30:22,139
idea out there like we know there might

784
00:30:26,570 --> 00:30:24,149
be another thing out there but to

785
00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:26,580
quote-unquote land on it with your mind

786
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:30,460
by using the field I don't know that's

787
00:30:35,549 --> 00:30:32,740
I almost am tempted to get off the bus

788
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:35,559
at that point right that's a very good

789
00:30:39,749 --> 00:30:37,960
point I mean if it is a real thing if

790
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:39,759
someone says you know ok remote-view

791
00:30:43,529 --> 00:30:41,710
bars and you don't know where Mars is in

792
00:30:44,879 --> 00:30:43,539
the sky right but there is this

793
00:30:46,739 --> 00:30:44,889
archetype for this morphic

794
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:46,749
representation of Mars that is within

795
00:30:51,419 --> 00:30:48,369
the consciousness field basically I

796
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:51,429
guess of everything so maybe your own

797
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:53,590
conception of Mars is sort of resonating

798
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:54,850
with the morphic archetype

799
00:30:58,889 --> 00:30:57,279
representation of Mars and you can sort

800
00:31:00,899 --> 00:30:58,899
of zero in on it that way but you know

801
00:31:03,149 --> 00:31:00,909
that's completely esoteric and

802
00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:03,159
completely something you know who knows

803
00:31:07,409 --> 00:31:05,740
that's a very good question well you are

804
00:31:10,049 --> 00:31:07,419
speaking to something that comes up in a

805
00:31:12,330 --> 00:31:10,059
lot of shows about magic and the power

806
00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:12,340
of the imagination and ideas that if you

807
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:14,860
concentrate on something enough it

808
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:17,919
actually becomes real and I mean all you

809
00:31:21,930 --> 00:31:20,049
got to do is say so many people have

810
00:31:23,549 --> 00:31:21,940
thought about the concept of Mars we've

811
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:23,559
seen pictures of what it's supposed to

812
00:31:27,649 --> 00:31:25,090
look like you can see it in the night

813
00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:27,659
sky it is just a dot but there is a

814
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:30,460
solid foundation there of an idea of

815
00:31:35,369 --> 00:31:32,169
what it would be and maybe if you're in

816
00:31:37,649 --> 00:31:35,379
that field it starts to pulsate or

817
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:37,659
vibrate or draw you to it like magnet is

818
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:39,700
exactly because there are people in

819
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:42,490
magical circles who say they create

820
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,129
entities to serve them serve a tours

821
00:31:51,299 --> 00:31:47,919
that kind of stuff like you just think

822
00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:51,309
hard enough and you make a little mental

823
00:31:55,739 --> 00:31:52,840
her Monk ulis it starts to run around

824
00:31:59,340 --> 00:31:55,749
doing stuff for you but we really don't

825
00:32:01,440 --> 00:31:59,350
understand how real ideas are you know

826
00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:01,450
they might be very real there might not

827
00:32:06,509 --> 00:32:04,360
be much separation between this world of

828
00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:06,519
what's an idea and what's actually out

829
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:09,070
there so I don't know I guess I can't

830
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:11,350
conceive of a possible way to achieve

831
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,049
remote viewing of Mars yeah I'm not

832
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:17,200
going to be able to do it yeah I think

833
00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:19,690
this comes down to you know you can keep

834
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:22,600
interpreting it as this materialistic

835
00:32:25,499 --> 00:32:24,610
equation and you can just keep being

836
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:25,509
like oh okay

837
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:27,490
it's holographic it's kind of

838
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:29,529
communicating okay so it's a dead

839
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:32,169
quantum computer put them there's also

840
00:32:36,539 --> 00:32:34,330
the other way of going about it which is

841
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:36,549
like no these equations are describing

842
00:32:41,369 --> 00:32:39,190
like a God mind it's describing a

843
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:41,379
universal consciousness that is

844
00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:44,050
springing matter into existence

845
00:32:49,290 --> 00:32:46,390
and this entire thing is minded and the

846
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:49,300
entire thing is archetypes and ideas and

847
00:32:54,570 --> 00:32:51,370
the entire thing is basically the

848
00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:54,580
imagination playing out and I think with

849
00:32:57,630 --> 00:32:56,260
that you're always coming back to the

850
00:32:59,100 --> 00:32:57,640
mystery and that interpretation which I

851
00:33:02,160 --> 00:32:59,110
really like mm-hmm

852
00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:02,170
yeah and we did just do a show about the

853
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:04,360
different kinds of processing even just

854
00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:06,130
in the brain we have serial and parallel

855
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:08,020
processing in the left and right

856
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:09,610
hemisphere and then you get into a

857
00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:12,490
quantum processing which is reaching

858
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,440
into that fabric and pulling out an

859
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:16,240
answer rather than going through a

860
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:18,670
process of ones and zeroes to solve an

861
00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:21,130
equation you could just reach into that

862
00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:23,350
quantum field and pull out your answer

863
00:33:27,810 --> 00:33:26,140
and I think that right there might be

864
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:27,820
the model for how remote viewing

865
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:30,910
anywhere in the universe could work yep

866
00:33:36,030 --> 00:33:33,850
that makes total sense to me yeah even

867
00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:36,040
the imagination itself and people like

868
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,620
Nikola Tesla who would sort of do that

869
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:40,480
would close their eyes and get visions

870
00:33:44,970 --> 00:33:42,970
on different inventions or get visions

871
00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:44,980
on how to but something just click you

872
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:46,390
know and you just got this total and

873
00:33:49,890 --> 00:33:48,730
complete idea that seemingly was plucked

874
00:33:51,090 --> 00:33:49,900
right out of the ether well maybe it

875
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:51,100
actually was plucked out of the

876
00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:53,770
universal consciousness either mm-hmm

877
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:55,540
and the point you made about it being

878
00:34:00,570 --> 00:33:58,210
alive itself is obviously important

879
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:00,580
maybe you just go into it and it knows

880
00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:02,410
it's like oh you're trying to access

881
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:04,540
this well here you go here it is like

882
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:06,640
you know right it's connected at every

883
00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:10,210
atom so it seems hyper intelligent if it

884
00:34:14,909 --> 00:34:12,580
created everything already I mean maybe

885
00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:14,919
this is God we're talking about but in

886
00:34:21,330 --> 00:34:19,270
terms of conspiracy stuff I like how

887
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:21,340
I've heard you talk about this before in

888
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:23,169
the context of the Philadelphia

889
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:26,290
Experiment I guess I would ask how could

890
00:34:30,659 --> 00:34:28,690
this model explain something like the

891
00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:30,669
Philadelphia Experiment and this idea

892
00:34:35,060 --> 00:34:33,190
that a battleship was warped in and out

893
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:35,070
of reality

894
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:38,820
yes so first innocent solution like we

895
00:34:44,020 --> 00:34:41,040
were saying earlier requires that space

896
00:34:47,060 --> 00:34:44,030
itself is basically wormhole fabric and

897
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:47,070
particles themselves are basically nests

898
00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:49,650
of entangled black holes which can kind

899
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:51,179
of be looked at as sort of a foamy

900
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,970
wormhole soup and normally things you

901
00:34:58,190 --> 00:34:55,440
know are where they're supposed to be

902
00:35:00,080 --> 00:34:58,200
you know his solution does dictate that

903
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:00,090
everything is in communication with

904
00:35:02,780 --> 00:35:01,230
everything else that everything knows

905
00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:02,790
the location of everything else because

906
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:04,950
everything is interacting with

907
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:06,450
everything else in exchanging

908
00:35:10,750 --> 00:35:06,990
information

909
00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:10,760
I mean instantly this wormhole connected

910
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:13,500
space-time fabric means that there's

911
00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:15,330
potential for quantum tunneling through

912
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:17,550
these wormholes from place to place and

913
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:19,110
in fact that's actually what's going on

914
00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:21,570
see when you move your hand your hand

915
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:23,550
being made up of spinning black hole

916
00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:26,250
photon plunk spherical units your empty

917
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:28,200
space not spinning it's background

918
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:30,180
fabric but when you move your hand like

919
00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:31,890
you were saying earlier this is much

920
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:34,020
like a vortex moving through water it's

921
00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:35,700
not the individual water molecules that

922
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:38,070
are moving it's this particular dynamic

923
00:35:41,420 --> 00:35:40,050
that's moving through space so we're

924
00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:41,430
already quantum tunneling and wormhole

925
00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:43,560
jumping from pixel to pixel all the time

926
00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:45,840
so if the Philadelphia permit did happen

927
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:47,400
it I think it's feasible to speculate

928
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:48,780
that it happened through some sort of

929
00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:51,450
quantum resonance through altering the

930
00:35:56,420 --> 00:35:53,640
resonance of the ship through vibration

931
00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:56,430
to allowing it to sort of mesh with this

932
00:36:01,940 --> 00:35:59,160
space back on either and jump around and

933
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:01,950
even jump time because when you have an

934
00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:03,810
entangled like quantum wave function

935
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:06,060
you actually have retro causal

936
00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:07,410
entanglement which means things in the

937
00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:09,750
future can influence things in the past

938
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:11,550
and you have all of your past

939
00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:13,770
interactions still entangled with you

940
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:15,870
because the past in the future basically

941
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:18,570
interfering to make the present so you

942
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:20,610
get this time possibility as well which

943
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:22,920
is pretty cool

944
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:25,049
interesting so like if you have this

945
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:27,510
battleship in the ocean you could just

946
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:31,740
maybe find its frequency and it slips

947
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:34,410
into the vortexes into the fabric and

948
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:37,410
then maybe comes back out again that's

949
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:39,480
what it seems like facing out phasing in

950
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:41,849
I mean if atoms are doing that all the

951
00:36:47,630 --> 00:36:44,130
time anyway seem potentially possible I

952
00:36:50,509 --> 00:36:47,640
assume yeah and it also kind of helps to

953
00:36:52,009 --> 00:36:50,519
explain Flying Saucer electrogravitic

954
00:36:54,859 --> 00:36:52,019
crafts too right because it seems like

955
00:36:58,130 --> 00:36:54,869
he's saying with enough spin you can

956
00:37:00,410 --> 00:36:58,140
just move about through this field

957
00:37:03,019 --> 00:37:00,420
because everything is entangled and all

958
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:03,029
these crafts seem to spin the Nazi Bell

959
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,010
seem to be about rotating and counter

960
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:07,920
rotating mercury so that's very much in

961
00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:10,890
the mix to this generally I think it's

962
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:12,750
called ether physics type of science

963
00:37:16,789 --> 00:37:15,089
type of technology but I mean it fits

964
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:16,799
right into this model to it all plugs

965
00:37:21,289 --> 00:37:19,470
right in yeah it's very easy to look at

966
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:21,299
it as fluid mechanics when you look at

967
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:23,880
the theory in light of fluid dynamics or

968
00:37:27,499 --> 00:37:26,250
even plasma fluid dynamics then yeah

969
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:27,509
stuff like that starts to make sense

970
00:37:32,930 --> 00:37:30,359
like Oh gravitational curvature is

971
00:37:34,940 --> 00:37:32,940
actually just particular spin if you map

972
00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:34,950
the change in acceleration when you're

973
00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:36,630
going down a vortex and you get what

974
00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:37,950
Einstein described as increase in

975
00:37:44,329 --> 00:37:40,980
curvature so when you replace just this

976
00:37:45,859 --> 00:37:44,339
flat plane idea of gravity that most of

977
00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:45,869
us have from seeing like either the

978
00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:48,180
trampoline with the ball on it and this

979
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:49,500
curvature happening when you replace

980
00:37:53,749 --> 00:37:51,779
that with fluid dynamics a lot of this

981
00:37:56,269 --> 00:37:53,759
stuff starts to make intuitive sense and

982
00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:56,279
that's especially relevant for even the

983
00:38:00,650 --> 00:37:58,500
interpretation of quantum mechanics like

984
00:38:02,269 --> 00:38:00,660
pilot-wave vs. Copenhagen but we can go

985
00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:02,279
into that later but it's similar stuff

986
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:05,670
sure and it's just getting back to that

987
00:38:10,009 --> 00:38:08,609
fractal element it's kind of like the

988
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,019
way you're describing it the way I've

989
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:12,480
heard nothing to scribe it I start to

990
00:38:17,539 --> 00:38:14,480
think well we have all these little

991
00:38:19,940 --> 00:38:17,549
points of light basically with massive

992
00:38:23,779 --> 00:38:19,950
space in between and you start to think

993
00:38:26,779 --> 00:38:23,789
man if I had a quantum microscope and I

994
00:38:28,999 --> 00:38:26,789
was looking at something under it it

995
00:38:31,819 --> 00:38:29,009
would almost look like outer space it

996
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:31,829
would look like huge vast emptiness with

997
00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:34,870
little points of light in between them

998
00:38:39,210 --> 00:38:36,820
that's the fractal nature of everything

999
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:39,220
right yeah absolutely

1000
00:38:43,950 --> 00:38:42,190
I remember like probably 15 years ago I

1001
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:43,960
think I was listening to Terence Mckenna

1002
00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:46,570
and he said something about it's no

1003
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:49,240
accident that an electron going around a

1004
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:50,980
nucleus of an atom looks like planets

1005
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:52,450
going around the Sun of the solar system

1006
00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:54,730
and then blew my mind at the time little

1007
00:38:59,340 --> 00:38:56,950
did I know how relevant that would be

1008
00:39:02,010 --> 00:38:59,350
yeah that you could extrapolate that out

1009
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:02,020
so much but you mentioned pilot-wave

1010
00:39:07,350 --> 00:39:04,990
let's talk about that a bit okay yeah so

1011
00:39:10,410 --> 00:39:07,360
at the quantum mechanics started became

1012
00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:10,420
popular the physicists met in Copenhagen

1013
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:12,550
and sort of decided on this

1014
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:15,640
interpretation of these experiments most

1015
00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:17,530
notably the dual slit experiment the

1016
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:19,840
double slit experiment we set it on an

1017
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:21,190
interpretation of quantum mechanics that

1018
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:22,930
as the Copenhagen interpretation and

1019
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,690
this is what we all think of usually

1020
00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:27,280
when we think of quantum mechanics we

1021
00:39:31,950 --> 00:39:29,590
think that particles are both particles

1022
00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:31,960
and waves or they're both and that

1023
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:34,360
particles are not actually in a specific

1024
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:36,160
location but they're in a superposition

1025
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:39,250
of all these states and that if you

1026
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:42,310
observe a particle being shot through

1027
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:44,290
these double slits that it goes from

1028
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:46,000
being a wave into a particle and it

1029
00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:48,310
knows something is observing it and it's

1030
00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:50,620
sort of abandoned mechanical causality

1031
00:39:56,370 --> 00:39:53,980
there you're not really allowed to try

1032
00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:56,380
and visualize this experiment you know

1033
00:40:00,480 --> 00:39:58,750
if you ask physicists how do I visualize

1034
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:00,490
this they're like well you don't have to

1035
00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:02,650
it doesn't have to make logical sense to

1036
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:04,840
a human brain you're like are you sure I

1037
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:06,370
think we should have some logical

1038
00:40:11,130 --> 00:40:08,710
consistency here you know so yeah that

1039
00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:11,140
kind of has tainted the past however

1040
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,480
long it's been like 60 to 80 years of

1041
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:15,760
quantum mechanics and of how we look at

1042
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:18,130
the universe in this very weird light

1043
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:20,560
but there is another interpretation that

1044
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:22,930
will give you these same answers in the

1045
00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:24,910
double slit experiment things such as

1046
00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:27,700
wave particle duality collapse things

1047
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:30,040
such as quantum tunneling and it's old

1048
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:32,650
it's as old as Copenhagen and there's a

1049
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:34,030
couple of guys that worked on it the

1050
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:36,970
Bogue Li a and David Bohm they called it

1051
00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:39,490
pilot wave like well wait a second this

1052
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:42,190
kind of makes sense if we look at the

1053
00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:44,050
double slit experiment in some sort of

1054
00:40:48,210 --> 00:40:46,270
fluid mechanics lens like if you have

1055
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:48,220
this field that sort of

1056
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:50,530
is in residence with this particle and

1057
00:40:54,359 --> 00:40:52,569
you shoot a particle like a vortex

1058
00:40:55,529 --> 00:40:54,369
through this field then of course you're

1059
00:40:58,410 --> 00:40:55,539
going to also have this guiding wave

1060
00:41:00,089 --> 00:40:58,420
that is made in the field as you shoot

1061
00:41:02,730 --> 00:41:00,099
the particle but if you interfere with

1062
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:02,740
it if you touch this wave this particle

1063
00:41:05,279 --> 00:41:04,000
then you're going to collapse the

1064
00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:05,289
resonance and it's going to look like

1065
00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:07,150
it's back to just a particle but it's

1066
00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:09,460
nothing crazy or esoteric it's just

1067
00:41:14,849 --> 00:41:11,950
fluid mechanics but there's a couple of

1068
00:41:16,410 --> 00:41:14,859
strange things that come out of that why

1069
00:41:17,970 --> 00:41:16,420
are all the physicists saying duh you

1070
00:41:20,130 --> 00:41:17,980
know this is obviously the correct model

1071
00:41:22,529 --> 00:41:20,140
and that's because it has either

1072
00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:22,539
inherent nonlocality which means that

1073
00:41:26,549 --> 00:41:24,280
all of these different pieces of the

1074
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:26,559
wave have to be informed of all the

1075
00:41:30,059 --> 00:41:28,690
other pieces of the wave instantly or

1076
00:41:32,099 --> 00:41:30,069
there needs to be some local hidden

1077
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:32,109
variable that we can't grasp

1078
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,210
we're obviously starting with the same

1079
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:35,920
solution with all these other solutions

1080
00:41:39,690 --> 00:41:37,750
to say now the waves entangled with

1081
00:41:41,789 --> 00:41:39,700
itself either through these micro

1082
00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:41,799
wormholes or through regular quantum

1083
00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:44,140
entanglement but the important part is

1084
00:41:48,329 --> 00:41:45,940
that the quantum wave function can be

1085
00:41:50,789 --> 00:41:48,339
the entire cosmos it's not just your

1086
00:41:52,769 --> 00:41:50,799
single little double slit experiment and

1087
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:52,779
so that's a lot I think for people to

1088
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:54,250
swallow because right off the bat you're

1089
00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:56,710
saying you have one quantum wave

1090
00:41:59,970 --> 00:41:57,760
function in which everything is

1091
00:42:02,370 --> 00:41:59,980
entangled and everything is an

1092
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:02,380
instantaneous feedback with itself so

1093
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:04,089
that's like mainstream physics right

1094
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:05,910
there and it's kind it's kind of crazy

1095
00:42:11,279 --> 00:42:09,250
yeah it is I mean I'm not a big Neil

1096
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:11,289
deGrasse Tyson fan but one thing you

1097
00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:13,089
said that I liked is that the universe

1098
00:42:20,279 --> 00:42:15,400
is under no obligation to make sense to

1099
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:20,289
you yeah yeah kudos to you Neil but um

1100
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:22,390
you know another thing I wanted to ask

1101
00:42:25,799 --> 00:42:23,950
you about I think a lot of people here

1102
00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:25,809
are familiar with the Flower of Life and

1103
00:42:30,839 --> 00:42:27,880
sacred geometry but a lot of these

1104
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:30,849
patterns are what we see in crop circles

1105
00:42:35,789 --> 00:42:33,010
and the thought has always been that

1106
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,799
someone or something is trying to give

1107
00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:37,839
us clues to how reality is really

1108
00:42:42,210 --> 00:42:40,420
structured and within the hollow fractal

1109
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:42,220
framework even that seems to make sense

1110
00:42:46,140 --> 00:42:45,190
don't you think yeah especially the

1111
00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:46,150
Flower of Life

1112
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:49,720
your listeners now found all over the

1113
00:42:54,990 --> 00:42:52,089
ancient cultures but when the sim was

1114
00:42:57,329 --> 00:42:55,000
doing his equations for the proton he

1115
00:42:58,769 --> 00:42:57,339
found that these plunk spherical

1116
00:43:00,450 --> 00:42:58,779
platonic black holes were actually

1117
00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:00,460
packed in this tetrahedral configuration

1118
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:01,870
which is the flower

1119
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:04,720
of life so that empty space and matter

1120
00:43:09,110 --> 00:43:06,430
is made up of these overlapping

1121
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:09,120
spherical flower of life patterns

1122
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:11,710
basically interference pattern and yet

1123
00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:14,560
you do see a lot of crop circles that

1124
00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:17,230
either represent this tetrahedral

1125
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,350
packing geometry with geometries such as

1126
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:22,240
the vector equilibrium you also see a

1127
00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:24,280
ton of crop circles that are Flower of

1128
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:27,790
Life seed of life and to me it does make

1129
00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:30,310
sense that crop circles actually make

1130
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:32,200
sense to me as a communication modality

1131
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:34,390
for a bunch of reasons but mostly

1132
00:43:38,610 --> 00:43:36,460
because it's non-threatening non

1133
00:43:41,850 --> 00:43:38,620
invasive and more than that it's not

1134
00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:41,860
invasive to people who don't want to

1135
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:44,320
even think about the universe not being

1136
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:46,330
materialistic you know they can go on

1137
00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:47,650
you know what their day-to-day lives

1138
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:49,420
without thinking a single thought about

1139
00:43:53,490 --> 00:43:52,390
in this quantum etherics field and they

1140
00:43:54,750 --> 00:43:53,500
could just go about minding their

1141
00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:54,760
business because they can write it off

1142
00:43:58,260 --> 00:43:56,980
in their heads to something man-made but

1143
00:44:00,360 --> 00:43:58,270
yeah when you look into these crop

1144
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:00,370
circles you know there's some very

1145
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:02,410
astonishing things like them encoding

1146
00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:04,390
the ancient alchemical squaring the

1147
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:06,070
circle and them and the fact that they

1148
00:44:10,110 --> 00:44:07,890
can be remade with a square and compass

1149
00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:10,120
so yeah it's definitely a very cool

1150
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:12,220
aspect that they encode some of the

1151
00:44:16,110 --> 00:44:13,210
geometries that are coming out of

1152
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:16,120
unified physics so mm-hmm like a call to

1153
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:18,550
initiation you can take it or not

1154
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:22,210
exactly it's just funny because it often

1155
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:24,970
seems to be these orbs of light that

1156
00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:26,830
make these patterns and we've also heard

1157
00:44:31,530 --> 00:44:29,260
a lot of new agey stuff about the light

1158
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:31,540
body and I guess if this field is

1159
00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:34,180
basically photons if you were able to

1160
00:44:41,460 --> 00:44:37,420
move through it you might appear as an

1161
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:41,470
orb of light yeah definitely yeah I

1162
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,390
wonder if it's possible to do these

1163
00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:46,000
things remotely too like if you have the

1164
00:44:50,670 --> 00:44:48,580
right tech to be able to probe into the

1165
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:50,680
holographic field and just throw an

1166
00:44:54,690 --> 00:44:52,690
electromagnetic spinner pattern into the

1167
00:44:57,090 --> 00:44:54,700
field in it to the right location I have

1168
00:45:00,240 --> 00:44:57,100
no idea but that's the possibility in a

1169
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:00,250
non-local cosmos yeah I mean is the

1170
00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:01,930
thing that kind of gets me is thinking

1171
00:45:07,050 --> 00:45:04,750
at that Universal scale that this fabric

1172
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:07,060
goes through literally everything and

1173
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:09,310
then you think well to be able to tap

1174
00:45:14,310 --> 00:45:11,470
into that I mean you would think that

1175
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:14,320
we'd be seeing stuff constantly from the

1176
00:45:17,170 --> 00:45:15,090
VAS

1177
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,180
outreaches of the cosmos where

1178
00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:19,200
civilizations who have reached this

1179
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,630
level of development are just popping in

1180
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:24,240
left and right like on a daily basis in

1181
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:27,360
an undeniable scale because the universe

1182
00:45:32,750 --> 00:45:30,450
is supposedly so vast but yet it only

1183
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,760
happens very rarely and maybe it's just

1184
00:45:36,020 --> 00:45:34,560
like why pay attention to earth when

1185
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:36,030
there's so many more interesting places

1186
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,090
out there right yeah I think I sort of

1187
00:45:43,790 --> 00:45:41,280
followed the what's it called in Star

1188
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:43,800
Trek the prime directive kind of thing I

1189
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,050
think I adhere a little bit to that

1190
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:48,000
where if they are out there they're

1191
00:45:52,580 --> 00:45:49,710
trying to let us you know come to our

1192
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,590
own noninvasive prods maybe I'll be

1193
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,480
siting here there or a crop circle with

1194
00:45:58,730 --> 00:45:56,640
some cool mathematical knowledge here

1195
00:46:01,370 --> 00:45:58,740
there but not to infringe upon our

1196
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:01,380
freewill I'm also a fan of Labuan who

1197
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:03,480
goes into this kind of stuff a lot but

1198
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:07,920
yeah it does seem very empty for being

1199
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,140
completely entangled but you know if you

1200
00:46:13,550 --> 00:46:12,000
do a psychedelic if you do the right

1201
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:13,560
psychedelics you know that goes right

1202
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:14,910
out the window you like oh there they

1203
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,090
are

1204
00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:17,760
hello cheers to that yeah I've been in

1205
00:46:23,570 --> 00:46:20,700
that if they're except just talking to

1206
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:23,580
entities disembodied things I don't know

1207
00:46:32,090 --> 00:46:27,720
yeah who does archetypes or disembodied

1208
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:32,100
entities maybe just ideas but yeah but

1209
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:34,770
it does seem just a bit vulnerable if it

1210
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:36,180
were to fall on the raw into the wrong

1211
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:38,970
hands you know like the CIA's or the

1212
00:46:44,750 --> 00:46:41,930
Freemasons or something yeah definitely

1213
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:44,760
definitely Matt it's interesting to

1214
00:46:50,330 --> 00:46:47,400
think about if there's like cosmic

1215
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:50,340
battles happening here like you it also

1216
00:46:54,350 --> 00:46:53,220
makes me think about the ce-5 contact

1217
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:54,360
protocol I don't know if you're too

1218
00:46:58,430 --> 00:46:56,460
familiar with that but it always seemed

1219
00:47:00,410 --> 00:46:58,440
a bit cheesy to me these people claim to

1220
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:00,420
go out in the desert and summon orbs of

1221
00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:02,970
light with meditation and chanting but

1222
00:47:07,550 --> 00:47:04,950
within this framework it seems like

1223
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:07,560
maybe you glow on the other side when

1224
00:47:12,410 --> 00:47:10,050
you start trying to call that kind of

1225
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,420
stuff and like a spotlight things just

1226
00:47:18,050 --> 00:47:14,640
start to come yeah I think that concept

1227
00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:18,060
of like resonance is fundamental to

1228
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,940
grasping that kind of stuff that things

1229
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,800
will attract like things and things will

1230
00:47:26,780 --> 00:47:25,200
start to entrain like if you put two

1231
00:47:28,819 --> 00:47:26,790
pendulums on a moving table you know

1232
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:28,829
they'll start to be in synchronized

1233
00:47:32,690 --> 00:47:31,049
swings because they're entrained with

1234
00:47:34,430 --> 00:47:32,700
each other and I think that same concept

1235
00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:34,440
definitely can be applied to things like

1236
00:47:38,299 --> 00:47:36,420
that things like what we're talking

1237
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:38,309
about before with the imagination and

1238
00:47:45,049 --> 00:47:40,619
getting ideas all just morphic resonance

1239
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:45,059
through the morphic field hmm and this

1240
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:46,890
is also complex and we're kind of

1241
00:47:51,979 --> 00:47:49,170
getting to the end of my line of

1242
00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:51,989
questioning I'm with you that any true

1243
00:47:56,749 --> 00:47:54,150
psychedelic experience is gonna leave

1244
00:48:00,349 --> 00:47:56,759
one wanting leave one yearning for some

1245
00:48:02,690 --> 00:48:00,359
other model and this does a great job of

1246
00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:02,700
filling in those gaps especially when

1247
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:04,950
you hear nessam talk about the math and

1248
00:48:09,319 --> 00:48:07,529
how he just took these things that

1249
00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:09,329
existed in one area and moved him to

1250
00:48:13,759 --> 00:48:10,950
this other area and he's like look here

1251
00:48:16,609 --> 00:48:13,769
now it all works I guess I would ask are

1252
00:48:18,709 --> 00:48:16,619
there any holes in the presentation

1253
00:48:20,539 --> 00:48:18,719
today that we should fill in any any

1254
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:20,549
gaps that we laughter do you think we

1255
00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:23,249
made a pretty complete case I think we

1256
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:25,140
made a pretty complete case I would like

1257
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:27,569
to I mean I guess the proton solution

1258
00:48:31,789 --> 00:48:30,089
within itself expanding on that a little

1259
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:31,799
bit I'm not sure it makes sense to talk

1260
00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:34,170
about it now but the derivation it's

1261
00:48:37,849 --> 00:48:36,329
super simple so maybe I could go over

1262
00:48:40,609 --> 00:48:37,859
that really quickly yeah yeah let's

1263
00:48:42,529 --> 00:48:40,619
throw it in okay so we have these pluck

1264
00:48:44,959 --> 00:48:42,539
spherical black holes right that make up

1265
00:48:47,479 --> 00:48:44,969
empty space we know that there's plant

1266
00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:47,489
density of vacuum and so in the sim to

1267
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,869
this and he tried to apply it to the

1268
00:48:53,509 --> 00:48:51,599
proton by just dividing a proton by

1269
00:48:56,029 --> 00:48:53,519
these clocks fear across elations and

1270
00:48:57,529 --> 00:48:56,039
when you do that you know how big the

1271
00:48:59,479 --> 00:48:57,539
proton is and you know how big these

1272
00:49:01,400 --> 00:48:59,489
parks vertical units are so you can

1273
00:49:03,529 --> 00:49:01,410
divide the proton volume by a clock

1274
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:03,539
spherical volume and multiplied by the

1275
00:49:07,279 --> 00:49:05,849
clock mass and when you do that you

1276
00:49:10,209 --> 00:49:07,289
yield the mass of the observable

1277
00:49:13,370 --> 00:49:10,219
universe at ten to the 55th grams and so

1278
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:13,380
this is the holographic or gravitational

1279
00:49:16,999 --> 00:49:15,420
mass or this is what this is the

1280
00:49:19,489 --> 00:49:17,009
holographic recapitulation of the whole

1281
00:49:20,839 --> 00:49:19,499
inside the proton volume and to yield

1282
00:49:22,370 --> 00:49:20,849
the protons breast mass because

1283
00:49:24,979 --> 00:49:22,380
obviously not all this mass is expressed

1284
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,989
locally it's very simple you count the

1285
00:49:27,699 --> 00:49:26,160
amount that are on the surface and you

1286
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:27,709
count the amount that are in the volume

1287
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:30,089
so there's about 10 to the 40 of these

1288
00:49:34,339 --> 00:49:32,130
pockets that fit on the surface and 10

1289
00:49:36,049 --> 00:49:34,349
to the 60 to fit in the volume you

1290
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:36,059
divide one into the other and multiply

1291
00:49:39,949 --> 00:49:37,529
by the Planck mass and then you yield

1292
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:39,959
the rest mass of a standard proton which

1293
00:49:42,350 --> 00:49:41,249
is something like 10 to the negative 20

1294
00:49:44,030 --> 00:49:42,360
4 grams

1295
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:44,040
and this is the holographic principle

1296
00:49:49,010 --> 00:49:46,410
which states that the surface of a black

1297
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:49,020
hole can encode the volume so this leads

1298
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:51,690
to the hypothesis that all the proton

1299
00:49:55,220 --> 00:49:53,370
surfaces are entangled with each other

1300
00:49:57,170 --> 00:49:55,230
through these planks vertical units on

1301
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,180
the surface which are wormholes and that

1302
00:50:00,140 --> 00:49:59,040
acts like a buffer only letting it a

1303
00:50:02,270 --> 00:50:00,150
little bit of the amount of the mass

1304
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:02,280
energy through and that's basically the

1305
00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:04,250
holographic solution in a nutshell so

1306
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,000
mmm I like it I like it and you know I

1307
00:50:14,570 --> 00:50:12,000
hear nessam use the term vacuum a lot

1308
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:14,580
and you know we hear space is a vacuum

1309
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:17,250
and a lot of the alternative community

1310
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:19,050
just dismisses that doesn't like that

1311
00:50:24,140 --> 00:50:22,170
terminology but vacuum really is not

1312
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,150
different from vortex it's like well a

1313
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:26,400
vacuum - where again with that bathtub

1314
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:29,370
drain analogy there's something on the

1315
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:31,500
other side of that vortex and that's

1316
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:33,360
this consciousness realm that's

1317
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:36,090
entangled with everything at the atomic

1318
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:38,850
level I mean I think it's interesting I

1319
00:50:43,010 --> 00:50:40,410
mean it's just a different way to look

1320
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:43,020
at it I mean vacuum is considered to be

1321
00:50:48,140 --> 00:50:44,850
nothingness but it's not nothingness

1322
00:50:49,970 --> 00:50:48,150
it's just a vortex to this source field

1323
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:49,980
yeah exactly

1324
00:50:55,220 --> 00:50:52,770
well it's cool is that the particles are

1325
00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:55,230
what seemed to be the vacuum and empty

1326
00:50:59,090 --> 00:50:57,720
space seems to be this the plenum so

1327
00:51:01,130 --> 00:50:59,100
it's kind of like an inversion of what

1328
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:01,140
we think that particles are more dense

1329
00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:03,270
but really they're less dense than empty

1330
00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:03,750
spaces

1331
00:51:08,510 --> 00:51:05,880
that's what gravity is gravity is this

1332
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:08,520
more dense space floating into this less

1333
00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:11,310
dense singularity vacuum consciousness

1334
00:51:19,220 --> 00:51:14,310
tunnel or whatever you want to call it

1335
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:19,230
man it is deep stuff it's deep and of

1336
00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:21,690
course this is just a 101 understanding

1337
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:25,230
for my simple stoner mind but again man

1338
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:27,330
thank you so much for doing this I will

1339
00:51:31,940 --> 00:51:29,070
be keeping tabs on the subreddit for

1340
00:51:34,310 --> 00:51:31,950
sure is there anything else to tell the

1341
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:34,320
people about follow up any good material

1342
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:37,290
out there you recommend as further 101

1343
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:40,170
study well the Residence Academy is a

1344
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:42,210
great place to check it out it's like

1345
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:43,950
the subreddit isn't you know enough for

1346
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:45,240
you and you're really trying to learn I

1347
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:47,310
don't work for them at all I just had a

1348
00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:48,480
guy who went through the course and it

1349
00:51:51,860 --> 00:51:50,190
was awesome so that's definitely another

1350
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:51,870
place besides a subreddit to get good

1351
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:54,450
info awesome but yeah thanks for having

1352
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:55,450
me out man this is awesome

1353
00:52:01,140 --> 00:51:58,000
yeah man well keep doing what you do and

1354
00:52:05,490 --> 00:52:01,150
take care out there yeah you too good

1355
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:05,500
talking to ya you as well and boom goes

1356
00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:08,260
the dynamite dear listeners big thanks

1357
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:11,470
to holo fractal Joe a good guy just

1358
00:52:16,410 --> 00:52:13,680
trying to bring ideas to the masses

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00:52:19,530 --> 00:52:16,420
something I definitely can vibe with and

1360
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:19,540
I do recommend that people check out a

1361
00:52:24,570 --> 00:52:21,970
presentation or two by Nassim himself

1362
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:24,580
I'll include some stuff in the show

1363
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:27,010
notes but I have fired off a few

1364
00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:29,890
unanswered emails in a sims way I get it

1365
00:52:34,890 --> 00:52:32,950
I mean the man is busy and the

1366
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:34,900
opportunity came up to have Joe on to

1367
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:36,250
talk about it and I thought hey that

1368
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:39,280
seems like a good substitute building a

1369
00:52:44,810 --> 00:52:42,640
twenty thousand person subreddit from

1370
00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:44,820
nothing there's no small thing and

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00:52:50,010 --> 00:52:48,070
really I'm just still jazzed up on a lot

1372
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:50,020
of the themes from the recent show with

1373
00:52:55,620 --> 00:52:52,300
SH Imagineer and I wanted to explore

1374
00:52:57,330 --> 00:52:55,630
those kind of areas a bit more and I

1375
00:52:59,970 --> 00:52:57,340
even asked Joe mangia near what he

1376
00:53:02,010 --> 00:52:59,980
thought of this overall theory because

1377
00:53:04,170 --> 00:53:02,020
it seems like something he would be into

1378
00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:04,180
and he basically said broadly speaking

1379
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:06,190
they're mostly an agreement both

1380
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:08,890
theories have holographic projection of

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00:53:13,950 --> 00:53:11,110
reality from higher dimensional space

1382
00:53:15,650 --> 00:53:13,960
and interconnectedness of all matter at

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00:53:19,140 --> 00:53:15,660
a fundamentally conscious level

1384
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:19,150
obviously just to get in sync on those

1385
00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:21,790
things is huge but in the details

1386
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:24,820
homogeny R leans more towards a theory

1387
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:29,230
flow than etheric curvature and instead

1388
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:32,170
of a unifying blackhole singularity at

1389
00:53:38,910 --> 00:53:35,530
the center of every atom he would lean

1390
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:38,920
more towards those being like torsion

1391
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:42,310
waves or organ or chi or longitudinal

1392
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,910
waves knotted longitudinal waves I think

1393
00:53:50,970 --> 00:53:48,400
is exactly the term be used and you know

1394
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:50,980
the details are kind of too complex for

1395
00:53:58,020 --> 00:53:54,130
me to really make a judgment on but I do

1396
00:54:00,930 --> 00:53:58,030
love the indras net analogy I do like

1397
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:00,940
the openness to the Hollow Earth idea

1398
00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:04,240
and this model that photons light

1399
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:07,420
particles are the conscious intelligence

1400
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:09,330
that we're always talking about

1401
00:54:15,110 --> 00:54:12,090
I mean God and light have always been

1402
00:54:17,090 --> 00:54:15,120
terms that get used together but going

1403
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:17,100
through this hollow fractal material

1404
00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:20,640
kind of just drove it home for me now

1405
00:54:24,350 --> 00:54:22,260
people are gonna think that I have a

1406
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,360
secret agenda to lead you all into a

1407
00:54:30,050 --> 00:54:26,880
sun-worshipping cult but hey you knew I

1408
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:30,060
was gonna reveal myself eventually but

1409
00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:31,890
really tie this into all the research

1410
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:35,390
about the benefits of sunlight and

1411
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:38,400
infrared or near-infrared spectrum

1412
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:40,680
healing I mean there's a lot of stuff

1413
00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:43,260
going on in that regard a lot of people

1414
00:54:50,660 --> 00:54:46,680
think most diseases are related to light

1415
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:50,670
deficiency vitamin D deficiency so

1416
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:53,760
praise rah you know but I hope you found

1417
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:56,010
something to like in this it is a little

1418
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:57,570
challenging to interview someone about

1419
00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:00,720
someone else's material plus subreddits

1420
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:04,200
can be big things he can't be expected

1421
00:55:10,820 --> 00:55:07,170
to know about every post there but I did

1422
00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:10,830
try to get into some off-script stuff

1423
00:55:16,210 --> 00:55:13,710
that had popped up on the subreddit once

1424
00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:16,220
we got through all that dense science

1425
00:55:22,460 --> 00:55:19,260
some hits some misses but I found the

1426
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:22,470
overall value to just be presenting you

1427
00:55:27,020 --> 00:55:24,570
with another model that gets closer to

1428
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:27,030
ether physics than the mainstream model

1429
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:30,150
in higher side news I should say that

1430
00:55:35,330 --> 00:55:32,850
there was gonna be a joint session today

1431
00:55:38,810 --> 00:55:35,340
on the 25th but something has come up

1432
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:38,820
for me and I am just getting over a bit

1433
00:55:44,330 --> 00:55:40,410
of sickness so I want to move it to

1434
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:44,340
Monday the 28th so anyone who listens to

1435
00:55:49,730 --> 00:55:47,250
this over the weekend might decide hey

1436
00:55:51,290 --> 00:55:49,740
it's Monday night let's smoke a little

1437
00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:51,300
smoke drink a little drink and get a

1438
00:55:58,550 --> 00:55:53,640
little bit weird with the host of THC

1439
00:56:00,200 --> 00:55:58,560
live on YouTube / zoom

1440
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:00,210
so I do look forward to it they have all

1441
00:56:04,790 --> 00:56:03,090
been really fun so far other than that

1442
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:04,800
of course if you are just listening to

1443
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:08,070
the free public version of THC still

1444
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:10,470
commercial-free an action-packed you're

1445
00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:14,130
welcome I do urge you to sign up for the

1446
00:56:20,110 --> 00:56:15,960
higher side chats plus you get access to

1447
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:20,120
the full archive so so many interviews

1448
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:23,280
you get the music and the forum and

1449
00:56:29,570 --> 00:56:26,490
several other bonuses please treat

1450
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:29,580
yourself to twice as much THC and treat

1451
00:56:33,970 --> 00:56:31,650
me to a little green in the tip jar if

1452
00:56:38,330 --> 00:56:33,980
you like how this wild ride is going in

1453
00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:38,340
today's show me and Joe got into some

1454
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:40,800
films that make for good representations

1455
00:56:45,950 --> 00:56:43,680
of Hollow fractal concepts we talked

1456
00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:45,960
about Joe's trip inside the Great

1457
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:47,880
Pyramid with the resonance Science

1458
00:56:53,530 --> 00:56:50,910
Foundation what an opportunity the

1459
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:53,540
importance of breathwork wim HOF and

1460
00:56:59,240 --> 00:56:56,970
increasing your Godhead density hidden

1461
00:57:01,280 --> 00:56:59,250
hyperspace kingdoms remember when Tracy

1462
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:01,290
Twyman talked about that maybe they're

1463
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:04,950
accessing this ethereal blanket we also

1464
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,930
talked about fun stuff like 'no sims

1465
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:08,480
take on the Ark of the Covenant

1466
00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:11,490
antigravity crafts the importance of the

1467
00:57:19,610 --> 00:57:15,800
number 64 and the breatharian stuff is

1468
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:19,620
it possible to live off the energy of

1469
00:57:25,130 --> 00:57:22,050
the source field and not eat or drink

1470
00:57:27,380 --> 00:57:25,140
for years people are saying they're

1471
00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:27,390
doing it and the sim has been one of

1472
00:57:30,310 --> 00:57:28,550
them

1473
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:30,320
that said I am psyched about some of

1474
00:57:34,930 --> 00:57:32,480
these upcoming shows I have on the

1475
00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:34,940
schedule but I always hesitate to say

1476
00:57:39,610 --> 00:57:37,910
anything until it's actually recorded so

1477
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:39,620
I'm just gonna leave it at that

1478
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:43,370
the holo fractal model in a nutshell do

1479
00:57:47,980 --> 00:57:45,170
check out the Halle fractal subreddit

1480
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:47,990
and say hello to Joe I'm getting out of

1481
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:48,290
here

1482
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:50,090
I've done my part your move hollow

1483
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:53,030
fractal haters ether deniers and tyrants

1484
00:58:02,740 --> 00:57:56,030
of the scientific quarantine your

1485
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:02,750
no the plan is always m'kay

1486
00:58:09,250 --> 00:58:06,370
you're just trying to dream you insane

1487
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:09,260
they'll explode your heart if they think

1488
00:58:17,050 --> 00:58:12,410
that's what it claims you think I'm

1489
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:17,060
answering the phone when I aim you gotta

1490
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:19,730
keep the burner strong cuz I don't want

1491
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:22,370
anyone thinking yo at home well you're

1492
00:58:29,350 --> 00:58:25,760
not you should tape the mail slot and

1493
00:58:32,020 --> 00:58:29,360
baby if I seem withdrawn let me say it's

1494
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:32,030
cuz I just don't wanna go and get

1495
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:35,810
whacked maybe you should know that the

1496
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:39,610
trauma affects you like it does everyone

1497
00:58:47,830 --> 00:58:43,040
it's just the game when it's where the

1498
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:47,840
world's become they want a pet

1499
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:50,570
don't you see what's going on well now

1500
00:59:18,150 --> 00:58:51,660
you

1501
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:18,160
friends

1502
00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:21,850
the suck out everything from you in the

1503
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:26,230
end and if for some reason you think I

1504
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:30,190
might be wrong I wonder where you got

1505
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:34,240
that opinion from you gotta keep the

1506
00:59:40,350 --> 00:59:37,090
Turner's strong cuz I don't want anyone

1507
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:40,360
thinking yo at home well you're not you

1508
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:43,810
should tape the mail slot and baby if I

1509
00:59:49,410 --> 00:59:46,720
seem withdrawn let me sing it's cuz I

1510
00:59:52,980 --> 00:59:49,420
just don't wanna go and get whacked

1511
00:59:57,450 --> 00:59:52,990
maybe you should know that the trauma

1512
00:59:59,820 --> 00:59:57,460
upsets you like it does everyone it's

1513
01:00:03,810 --> 00:59:59,830
just the game when it's where the

1514
01:00:06,750 --> 01:00:03,820
world's become they want a pat down in

1515
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:06,760
the swamp don't you see what's going on

1516
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:08,450
well now

1517
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:12,210
you're better keepin on your own cuz you

1518
01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:16,410
can see the man there's like too much Oh

1519
01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:21,750
baby you can only trust yourself and if

1520
01:00:31,150 --> 01:00:26,220
you think the system's out of touch it

1521
01:00:49,550 --> 01:00:31,160
is and you can only trust yourself

1522
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:49,560
[Music]

1523
01:00:57,810 --> 01:00:53,290
you might think that these problems are

1524
01:01:02,010 --> 01:00:57,820
small maybe they aren't registering at

1525
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:02,020
all now they know you're naive and

1526
01:01:08,510 --> 01:01:06,490
vulnerable you won't believe all of the

1527
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:08,520
sense that they'll pull

1528
01:01:17,370 --> 01:01:13,089
cuz you can see the Masters lied too

1529
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:17,380
much oh baby you can only trust yourself

1530
01:01:26,089 --> 01:01:22,690
and if you think the system's out of

1531
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:26,099
touch it is and you can only trust

1532
01:01:35,579 --> 01:01:31,690
yourself because you can see the Masters

1533
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:35,589
lied too much oh baby you can only trust

1534
01:01:44,670 --> 01:01:41,290
yourselves and if you think the system's

1535
01:01:46,530 --> 01:01:44,680
out of touch it is and you can only